The vampire prince

I’ve been having a debate with a YouTuber through my message section, and it ended this morning, so I thought I’d share. This is how it started.

Checking my messages, I open one from kaldunvampireprince with the subject ‘Twilight’.

Where’s your book Alex? Oh yeah you havent written one because u’re a talentless c*nt/ Get off the jealousy car and leave Meyer alone. Millions like her work so go eat some glass.

And you cant sing AT ALL!! Go kill urself.

Brilliant.

(Just to clarify for those that don’t know – I film myself reading chapters of Twilight and vocalising my thoughts spontaneously. Here’s the first chapter:)

Lots of fantastic things here. First of all, I love that I’m lured in with a question. Instead of just “you suck” it’s “oh, hey, Alex, how’s the album coming along? That’s right, IT’S SHIT AND YOU SHOULD DIE”. Bit of a leap.

It’s great that, although he’s passionate enough to use the words ‘talentless cunt’, he still gave himself a cheeky asterisk, so that he wouldn’t offend me; but then powered on through with ‘go kill urself’. And that comes AFTER the glass eating. What a genius.

And I also like “you can’t sing. AT ALL!!” Like if he hadn’t added that I’d have gone away thinking, “well, I can sing, a bit.”

“You can’t sing!”
Well, I’d argue that -
“AT ALL!”

(Bit of background on kaldunvampireprince – he only has one subscriber. The name of his subscriber is KoolGuy532. That’s cool with a ‘k’, people.)

My reply:

“She can’t write worth a damn. She’s not very good.” – Stephen King on the Twilight series. An opinion from someone who HAS written a book, and knows better than me what’s good and what isn’t.

You’re right, millions of people like her work. Millions of people are subscribed to Fred, too. Millions of people can sometimes be very stupid.

Off to kill myself now. I’M HUNGRY FOR SOME GLASS.

I thought that was fine, acknowledging that I don’t know everything about writing but it’s not just me who has this opinion – but apparently this user’s hatred for me runs deeper than this.

You’re not Stephen King. If he wants to make a video slagging her off he’s entitled to. You are not you seem to be trying to get some free publicity from her success. Why dont u focus on creating something worthwhile yourself instead of denigrating her hard work? How do you think she would feel if she saw ur videos? How would u feel if someone created a video slagging off ur music? You need a reality check mate. Glass is too good for you. You need to eat some humble pie and apologise to Meyer. She’s not asking you to read her books so what is your problem?

“Glass is too good for you to eat! You know what you should eat? HUMBLE PIE! RAWWWWR”

“Humble pie” is a pretty shit phrase to use, but nothing will beat “get off the jealousy car”.

I was a bit annoyed that he seemed to think I’m not allowed to express opinions about books because I’m not Stephen King, so I replied with:

Look, everyone has their critics. I’m sure Stephanie Meyer is a big girl who can handle criticism. She’s got enough of it, after all.

I don’t agree with the notion that I’m not allowed to attack her because I haven’t written a book of my own – that’s mental. So only musicians are allowed to express opinions about what music they like or dislike?

I don’t mind if people make videos slagging off my music, because my music isn’t objectively badly written. It just might not be to your taste. Twilight, as a series, is poorly written. That’s my problem.

And at the end of the day, I’m just having fun, people are entertained, so that’s all there is to it.

I dunno – I probably shouldn’t even be writing this blog entry, because I’m not Chad Hurley and am therefore not entitled to analyse YouTube messages. THAT’S THE WORLD WE LIVE IN.

I’m trying to wrap it up with ‘well really, this doesn’t matter that much, so just let it go’, BUT NO. This vampire prince continues to ignore my points and restate his own bollocks ones.

Who are you to judge that it’s badly written? What qualifies u? Do u have a Masters or PHD in English Literature? Just because you’re jealous of her success stop taking your frustration out on her. You write 5 novels and then you can slag her off. Until then u r entitled to say I dont like these books but dont judge her writing and stop trying to get some free publicity from her success because that makes you one gigantic two faced hypocrite. No one knows you except for Twilight. Wow the irony. And I am sending your links to Meyer’s publishers and their legal teams. That should be fun.

What?

I’m not just a hypocrite (what?) I’m a TWO-FACED HYPOCRITE! Fucking hell, sometimes I think language should only be inherited by those that are worthy.

No-one knows me except for Twilight – what?! What about my mum? She didn’t just return from seeing New Moon, walk into the house and say “OH FUCK I HAVE A SON!”

Okay, you completely ignored my point. What I said was – who says that I can only judge books if I’ve written books myself? It’s not a rule in life that only musicians are allowed to tell people their opinions about the music they do and don’t like. When I read a book, I don’t say “I don’t know if it’s good or not, because I haven’t written a book”. People have opinions, and this is mine.

Secondly, I’m not jealous of her success. I laughed when I read that, actually. She’s done well for herself, and I’m happy for her. I just wish she’d done something better.

Thirdly, I’m not trying to get ‘free publicity from her success’ – and even if I was, that wouldn’t make me a hypocrite. A hypocrite is someone who says ‘don’t do this’ and then does it themselves. I’ve never said ‘don’t try to get free publicity from people’s success’. But either way, that’s not what I’m doing.

Finally, ‘no one knows you except for Twilight’ isn’t true, because I’ve been on YouTube for three years and had seventy thousand people watching me before I started that series.

Any other points you’d like to ignore?

As you can see, I’m getting a bit bitter.

So is he.

Don’t patronise me…

1. You are vindictively attacking Meyer on youtube and disecting her books for their writing…not for how they make u feel but for their technical quality. You are not qualified to do that.

2. Yes you are. Why else would you waste your time making so many videos slagging her off? Better? 40 million copies and growing says actually what she’s done is pretty spot on. You aren’t her target market so who are you to judge the quality of her work? You don’t like it that’s fine. But dont go through it page by page critiqueing her work as though you could have done something better.

3. Yes you are a hypocrite. You are attacking her work knowing it will get you some free publicity, you are in essence riding on the wave of her success and therefore biting the very hand that feeds you.

4. 70,000 hits compared to the 250,000+ you got for Twilight? I’d say more people know you now than before Twilight.

Let me summarise u: u r a vindictive shallow individual with no moral compass and questionable musical talent. And really I dont think Meyer gives a shit what u say whereas u r obviously extremely affected by what she has to say. That has to hurt. Ha ha.

Numerical points! And a handy summary at the end! And the brilliant starter: “don’t patronise me”. Learn how to carry out a debate then!

He’s just so sure of himself that it doesn’t matter what I say. “You’re jealous of her!” – “well, no, I’m happy for her and her success, but I just think if something deserves to be that successful, it should be of a higher calibre than it is.” – “NO YOU’RE WRONG YOU’RE JEALOUS OF HER!” Fantastic. We’re now at the point where he might as well be typing ’so nur nur nur’ at the end of his messages.

70,000 hits compared to the 250,000 I got from Twilight? Shit you’re right, I can’t argue with maths. You know my YouTube stats better than me! OH WAIT. You’re obviously completely wrong.

And “Let me summarise u” – this bit is great. I’m vindictive and shallow. I have no moral compass – ?! – the questionable musical talent bit is fair, that’s his opinion, but then he does an about-face. “Meyer doesn’t give a shit what you say!” – I know she doesn’t. But you were the one saying “how would she feel if she saw these videos?” and it was me saying “I’m sure she’s a grown up who won’t care”.

I also noticed he’s started leaving comments on my videos. LOADS of them. All saying roughly the same thing.

“u r an evil talentless vindictive jealous bastad!”
“u brainless twat”
“Alex u r a vindictive evil talentless twat”

EVIL?! He called me EVIL?!?

“stop fucking messaging me I dont care what you have to say!”

He left this as a comment. Wanker.

“Meyer has 40 million books sold compared to your 0 albums…that says it all”

I’ve sold well over 3000 copies of my albums, just so we’re clear on that. No, it’s not 40 million, but it doesn’t change that he’s wrong. It doesn’t say it all, unless the ‘all’ is ‘you’re objectively a cunt’. (ooh no asterisk, I MEAN BUSINESS)

So then I sobbed on to my Mac because Stephanie Meyer doesn’t care about my opinion, and after I cleared away the tears I wrote the following:

I’m patronising you because you are ignoring my points. You’ve done it again here. I’m getting sick of saying the same things over and over.

I’m not a hypocrite. Hypocrisy is defined as “the act of persistently pretending to hold beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually hold.” So if I told people not to smoke, but I did smoke myself, I’d be a hypocrite. If I secretly loved Twilight, but told people I hated it and that it was bad, I’d be a hypocrite. I’m not doing that. Yes, there is a certain irony that the series has got me more attention, but it’s not hypocrisy, so let’s stop making that point.

Second, I didn’t say I had 70,000 ‘hits’ before I did the Twilight books. You can look at the view counts on my old videos to see that’s obviously not true. I had 70,000 ‘people watching me’ before Twilight, meaning subscribers; in terms of views, I had nearly ten million. Twilight has given me another million. So it’s made me 10% more successful. So we’re two for two; I’m not a hypocrite, and people would care about my videos if I wasn’t doing this.

Next: I can’t believe I’m countering this point for the third time, cos you’re just not listening to my rebuttals, but you don’t need to be ‘qualified’ to dissect anything on its technical quality. You can just use your brain and make observations. That’s what makes free speech so fucking wonderful. If you don’t like it, you can feel free to start a ‘kaldunvampireprince loves Twilight’ series.

Last: forty million copies does NOT make her books good!! I can’t believe that you would honestly think the only barometer for success is the number of sales a thing makes. What forty million sales means is that she’s done something that connects with people, but it doesn’t mean she’s done anything with any kind of skill at all.

“But dont go through it page by page critiqueing her work as though you could have done something better.” – I’VE COUNTERED THIS POINT sfghabggs. Blimey, what’s the point of this debate if you’re just not going to listen to anything I say? I’m listening to what you say and I’m countering it and then you just paraphrase yourself over and over again. Imagine this conversation that happens in your idea of the world but not in the real one:

Me: “What did you think of the Lady Gaga CD?”
You: “I don’t know.”
Me: “What do you mean you don’t know?”
You: “I can’t do anything better, so I don’t have the right to critique it.”

Stupid, isn’t it?

You’re completely right in saying that Meyer doesn’t give a shit what I say. That’s why I didn’t care when you said you were going to tell her lawyers and her publishers about this. I’m glad you’re learning. And no, I’m not affected by what she says. I’ll finish the same way I finished last time, since this argument will be caught in a time loop forever, apparently; I’m just trying to entertain people and have some fun, so there’s no harm.

Are we done yet?

Unfortunately I’ve let my temperament get the better of me and I think that weakens my points a little bit, but ultimately I’m still right. I haven’t spent any time debating the Twilight books with this guy – it’s been all about my own feelings and motives, which I obviously know better than he does.

Then I noticed that he was just having a go at anybody in my comments who said anything nice about me, cycling his three comment words ‘talentless’, ‘vindictive’ and ‘twat’. So I decided to end this dance.

hi! :)

I noticed that you’re being very rude to my subscribers so I’m gonna go ahead and block you. Hopefully that way you can calm down and let go and move on with your life.

Bye!

Fin.

Feel free to send this to people who you think might like it xD

My EP about videogames, 117% Complete, comes out on iTunes tomorrow! <3

x

  • Faye
    Is it just me, or does "no one knows you except for Twilight" not make any sense in the slightest?
  • Mel
    Oh my god. I cannot remember the last time I laughed so hard at something so utterly pointless. Such a waste of timeeeeee...... i am so proud that you did not lose your temper! I know i would have! You are utterly genius! .... is 'congratulations' appropriate? Oh no... I shouldn't ask questions... I wouldn't want to generate debate of any kind. Also I lose debate easily so i don't fancy it much.....
    ALEX I bought you're 117% bundle today!!!!!! You said it wasn't on sale for much longer so i decided it's now or never! and I have Parrot stories!! :P yay... your music makes me happy :D
  • Mariana
    How to make sure the person you talk to is actually British: start an argument with the person and wait for the golden line "don't patronise me." If that line appears somewhere in the middle without no real significance at all, you are sure to have found someone 100% British.

    (Said with love, everybody. I love England and my best friend for two years was from the UK. All I'm saying is you use the word "patronise" too often. What does that really mean? Seriously? AAAAAH. Makes my soul old and wrinkly and grey. Every time.)
  • kassia
    You spent way too much time on this person Alex. As a Twilight fan myself, I can attest to the fact that a vast quantity of them are actually brainless morons. But not me of course :P And they'll spend even more of your time if you keep arguing against them, cause like the no life losers they are, they'll argue with you and it will just end up being a continuous loop.

    Although I can't quite criticize anyone else for having no life, especially as I'm playing destructo-match on Neopets and watching old Brotherhood 2.0 videos from the beginning. I'm such a partyer!

    And also, it wasn't Twilight that I first heard of you from. It was in the recommended for me section on youtube because I watch lots of vlogbrothers videos. So NYAH, kaldunvampireprince!

    eh, w/e. Off to feed my neopets.




  • kirsty :)
    why that last comment posted twice i dont know ^.^
  • kirsty :)
    well that dudes a bit of a dope.
    i mean i read the twilight sseries saw the films. personallly i liked them at first but they are dragging ot out too far with all the merchandise (you can now buy twilight plasters.) now i just think they are a bad series or 'saga' as the films are called. you make me laugh in all honesty :'D

    Fucking hell, sometimes I think language should only be inherited by those that are worthy.

    No-one knows me except for Twilight – what?! What about my mum? She didn’t just return from seeing New Moon, walk into the house and say “OH FUCK I HAVE A SON!”

    cried laughing.
    yeah your well cool + your 117% complete is amazing <3
  • kirsty :)
    well that dudes a bit of a dope.
    i mean i read the twilight sseries saw the films. personallly i liked them at first but they are dragging ot out too far with all the merchandise (you can now buy twilight plasters.) now i just think they are a bad series or 'saga' as the films are called. you make me laugh in all honesty :'D

    Fucking hell, sometimes I think language should only be inherited by those that are worthy.

    No-one knows me except for Twilight – what?! What about my mum? She didn’t just return from seeing New Moon, walk into the house and say “OH FUCK I HAVE A SON!”

    cried laughing.
    yeah your well cool + your 117% complete is amazing <3
  • CiaraM
    Okay... first off LMAO!!! This guy needs to chill out. I personally like Twilight but I agree that it could've been written so much better, Ms. Meyer made the classic 'vampire falls in love with a human story' her own and thats great. What 'kaldunvampireprince' needs to remember is that with every good review, theirs a bad one to match it (Unless its a complete work of art and theres not one fault in it *LIKE THATS EVER GOING TO HAPPEN!!!*).
    The 'You cant sing AT ALL' made me laugh and he calls you the hypocrite. Has he written numerous songs? Has he got a PHD in music? Can he honestly judge you're musical talent using his own rules?
    Anyway Alex, the EP sounds great and I'm saving up to buy it x
    As for 'kaldunvampireprince' he just got NERIMOWNED XD
  • you shouldn't even have bothered with an idiot like him...but i'm glad you did cause now you've lifted my mood :)
    you're hilarious and people like the prince are...well..beyond description

    i'm sending right away to a friend of mine just like the prince, thanks to you i might this debate :)
  • caitlin
    im sorry but i just had to add another comment on here to give you 100 comments on this blog post. so there, happy 100th comment :)
    Some people on youtube can be very rude :/
  • tumblebard
    wow.
    I..
    wow.

    People are awesome. XD
  • Brooke
    oh dear! i just had a good laugh!
    You can't do anything against hardcore-twilight-fans, i've tried it myself and failed... no chance to win with logical arguments=) but anyway, it was entertaining to read through the conversation.
  • emmachupein
    Koolguy352 is subscribed to me as well, he's one of those "sub 4 sub?" wankers xD
  • deidre86
    I just wanted to let you know, Twilight fans (at least some of them) are completely mental. Some of them truly believe the Stephenie Meyer just shits gold, and that everything that she has done is the epitome of originality, when really her work is poorly written and trite. As a devout horror fan, I am offended by her work (sparkling vampires, really?) and truly can't understand her popularity. This is coming from someone who actually read the crap, and *gasp* still thinks it's terrible. I gave it a chance, for love of the genre, and it's still bad. Anywho, here is an article illustrating my point, http://www.latinoreview.com/news/open-letter-to-universal-your-wolfman-ripped-off-twilight-9247. In this article, an enraged twilight fan calls the new Wolfman movie a twilight rip off. I mean hello, it's a remake of a 1941 classic. You don't need to even be intelligent to know that, you just need to know how to use a search engine! Sorry for the rant, you rock, they suck, end of story.
  • Isabella
    he's just a giant squid of anger. don't waste your time on him! =D
  • AllyPoo
    Sometimes I think that the gene pool should be cleaned out because obviously there is some scum left on the bottom...
  • Kim
    I don’t think I’ve laughed this hard at someone else’s incompetence in my life! Strangely, I’d just sat through a two hour lecture today on how we value literary works and at no point was “have to have written a book” mentioned. You’re videos honestly made me laugh out loud :)
  • audreycooper
    "hi! :) I noticed that you’re being very rude to my subscribers so I’m gonna go ahead and block you. Hopefully that way you can calm down and let go and move on with your life."

    <3
  • charli
    Omg alex! i fucking love you and LOLed all the way throught this! ahahaha
    he is an "evil twat" ( :P ) and well dun for blocking him xD
    this must hav taken ages to write up n this 'vampire prince' is going to get some serious hate mail LOL <3
    love you forver!
    ps. ur twilight vids are great but thats definately not why i subscribed to you! <333
  • Kristina
    You're awesome.
  • IsabellaJane
    this was hilarious :) and also, your points were so well written. i loved it when he said 'And I am sending your links to Meyer’s publishers and their legal teams', i was just such an "I'm telling my mum on you!!" moment :D it made me laugh so much.
    well, i subbed you before twilight and i'll keep watching long after too, oh yeah, and i like your music :)
  • Kate8D
    This is just aout the best thing I've read in a long while
    It seemed like he was getting a kick out of arguing with you
    x
  • cherrysmith20
    sooooooo funny its just brilliant you totally pwned/kicked his liitle weeny bum into non existence LOL i like the books ad your video insulting them so dont think that all twilight fans are utter nutters that would kill for a book theyre just strange
    Laaaave your vids
  • gemlovesalexday
    I've had a fairly good day today already, but then i come home from school, get changed, and read this for about the fifth time and my day gets better! a true day-maker! if that counts as a word :S x

    p.s. love the wallpaper photos! <3
  • Tonje
    Oh my gods! What a long entry!
    hahaha it was very funny ^^
    But I must say I feel very sorry for you! I hate discussing with people who don't listen and only repeat themselves over and over.. (To be honest i don't like discussing at all, but nevertheless...)
    Well I hope he secretly saw you points... I think he should, if not he was even more stupid than he first seemed... :P
  • tiadk
    hahahahaha x)
    NERIMOWNED ;D
  • Michelle
    Y'know, sometimes I feel like the internet should only be given to those who deserve it. Of course, I also feel that way about pro-creation.

    Honestly, it's just ridiculous that anyone should get THIS upset about anything short of war, famine, etc. It's a book, people! A poorly written book!

    Ah well, I suppose there's not much we can do about it. Other than continue to mock it at every turn. And, of course, in that spirit; please continue, Alex. It brightens up my life. :)
  • itiselizabeth
    This was just amazing to read. Good one Alex :D
  • swimgrlmf_DFTBA29
    I actually was reading your comments one day and I read a comment by that person, so I sent them a message completely yelling at them and telling them that if they don't like you, they don't need to comment your videos and talk trash about them, and like that he/she couldn't be as awesome as you no matter how much they tried. (shows my dedication as a fan lol)

    P.S- I saw your new youtube video today (the pokemon what happened to you music video) it was awesome, and you uploaded it on my birthday which was awesome because it was actually one of my birthday wishes for you to have a new video (and to somehow get your autograph...lol what can I say, you are one of the people I want to meet in life)

    P.P.S- I was just wondering if you answer messages that you get on youtube or not, I just want to know if I should wait for a reply to the question I sent or not.

    Keep being awesome!!!
  • m333gan
    Oh wow.You are truly one of a kind(I say that in a fantastically good way)
    Nice comebacks.I dont think ive ever laughed so hard during a weekday.
    Do we have your permission go all hater-like on them?
  • m333gan
    Oh wow.You are truly one of a kind(I say that in a fantastically good way)
    Nice comebacks.I dont think ive ever laughed so hard during a weekday.
    You we have your permission go all hater-like on them?
  • Catherine
    That was Brilliant, I love your replies very clever and the "cheeky asterisk"
  • *facepalm* There is a large group of people who need a good smack in the face.

    This child falls into that category.

    By the way, I like how he noted that you don't have a PhD in English. Does he? Ooh... Yeah... haha. Anyways, excited for 117% Alex!

    PS: this reminds me of the dodo666 thing you mentioned in a 5AG video. He no longer lets people post comments on his page because of that, did you know?
  • Deirdre
    *sighs*
    oh, usernameimnotgoingtoscrolluptolookatvampireprince, when will you learn. people have the right to an opinion. the fact that we can form a very opinion is one of the greatest things about humans. i, for example, like twilight. i've read it and, though i do agree that the writing is sub par, i enjoyed the story. however, unlike you, sir vampire prince, im not going to go making a fuss about how nobody agrees with me. in fact, i find these videos hilarious and not the least bit insulting. what you need to learn, oh longusername, is that we here in this little branch of youtube cuoldnt give a damn about popularity. so meyers has sold a great deal of books. good for her. she worked hard to produce what she did and she got paid for it. now here i think i can make the argument that alex has worked pretty damn hard to, and he's gotten his dues as well. so, self-proclaimed prince of the vampires, i do think it would be safe to say that opinions are opinions, and we can leave it at that, no? But who am i to judge you? i for one have never experienced a rude private message exchange with alex, so i guess i'm not qualified. strange thing, innit.

    also, please, for the love of god, buy a dictionary. or get spell check. ur typin is not pleesin to reed.
  • Clare
    I hate trying to have a logical debate when the other person is just being an idiot.
  • That was a ridiculous conversation to be having. I'm glad you finally just ended it. It was pretty funny to read though :)

    OMG! Does the EP really come out tomorrow? I can't believe! It seems like you just announced that it was even coming out. I can't wait to get it!
  • Wow, I love how he said you couldn't write something better than Twillight.
    My NaNoWriMo novel was better than Twilight, and I wrote most of it over the course of a day. I'm not even saying that just to be funny, I literally read part of Twilight when I was writing it to
    compare them and there is no doubt in my mind that my novel was more well-written.
  • Sorrel
    I'm not a Twilight fan, but I'm not a Twilight hater either. I enjoy your Twilight videos and think this person doesn't quite understand how futile and stupid their crusade is, so your handling of the situation was quite commendable. Having said that, I don't agree with the claim that your work is objectively better written than Meyer's. I'm not necessarily talking about the content, it's more about the idea that you can give it a definitive label of 'good' or 'bad' depending on an objective set of criteria. If something is ridiculously juvenile and unintelligible, then yes, you can say it's clearly bad, but Meyer is a competent (though not amazing) writer and not nearly as terrible as some would claim. You can be a good technical writer, which is great and all, but I think Meyer manages something more elusive; she creates a memorable atmosphere and manages to be quite evocative with her words. I get through a lot of books on a day to day basis, and it really is true when they say that 90% of everything is crap. What she's managed is quite rare, and for that, I don't think it's fair when people say she's a shit writer. I'd rather someone be “objectively bad” than boring, which is (in my mind at least) the worst crime a writer can commit. Art is sacred, and the pursuit of perfection, beauty and truth is part of what makes an artist truly great. It's difficult but also rewarding, so I never think any artist should compromise along the way. Meyer might not tick all the boxes, but her art is her own vision, and if the finished product is what she had in her mind all along, then she's stayed true to herself and the spirit of creativity. Not a bad effort, I reckon.
  • RubyLestrange
    I love that you blocked him because he was being awful to your fans! It's like you can mess with me... but mess with my subscribers NO!
    there's only one word to sum this up...
    BEdoDOdooo!!!

  • Jess
    BAHAHAHA. That's hilarious! I love that you took on one of the braindead losers of YouTube and beat them :D
  • whoshify
    this is the most entertaining thing I have read in a LONG time!
    Haha, Alex, you tell 'em!
    This vampire prince will be recieving many hateful comments on his channel...
  • This really makes me want to do a video called "Peter Hates "Alex Hates Twilight"" As a complete joke of course...It would be like a parody of you, and I'd be making really stupid arguments against your videos.

    I'm thinking about it...
  • CiaraM
    I'd watch it :)
    (EVEN though i am a twilight fan of sorts) It would just be a laugh XD
    Hey, maybe you'd get your own 'guywithannoyinglylongnamewhichicantbebotheredtofindout' messaging you with the argument 'I'M TELLING!!'
  • taylor :)
    Oh Alex xD This was hilarious. Especially the last bit. But in despite of the entertainment that comes from these fights, I think you should just ignore these kinds of people. Anyone with a username like vampire prince isn't gonna care what you say back about twilight cause he thinks he knows all. I've been around the internet long enough to have several fights like these, random strangers questioning my sanity and character. But in the end it's the one's who start the fight that really lose, cause if they are stupid enough to start things like these..? Then well, I think you get the point :P. It would probably keep you happier if you just deleted it and moved on x] <3
  • Guest
    I honestly can't tell you how glad I am that you put this up.

    A point I noticed (although perhaps it was blatantly obvious, and I simply don't get the humor in ignoring it).
    He kept saying you had no right to criticize her work, because you yourself have not written 5 novels, or have a Masters in English Literature or whatever, and yet he sat there and criticized your music/musical talents.
    Is it just me?
  • However much of a twat this guy clearly is, he did begin his string of messages by raising a good question - what has happened to Skyers, Alex?
  • First, he has the “Let me summarise u” bit wrong. U is a vowel and the twenty-first letter in the basic modern Latin alphabet. Stupid vampire person...

    Also, I've read all 4 books many times and then I realised how stupid it was. It is a terribly written series and it's also confusing in places. I don't think I will ever read them again. They will remain on my bookshelf surrounded by better written books forever.

    When I was reading this and he was saying "Meyer wouldn't give a shit about your opinion" I was thinking "WTF is he going on about then?! If he is moaning about what she would feel like if she saw your videos, why say that she wouldn't care?! it kinda ruins the point of the whole conversation."

    Finally, I can't believe your album is out tomorrow! I have bought it and will force my art group to listen to it during our lessons. It should be fun :D x

  • Charlotte_Mitchell
    I laughed so hard at this... I think you make valid points (the fact that it's the same point over and over
  • Sara
    These haters comments are so idiotic it's depressing! It's a shame you have to put up with them :/
  • littleforest
    Oh...
    I just hope you spend the same amount of your time replying to all the comments from people who genuinely like your work.
  • No-one knows me except for Twilight – what?! What about my mum? She didn’t just return from seeing New Moon, walk into the house and say “OH FUCK I HAVE A SON!”
    - Ahaha Alex you are brilliant. I don't understand why people get so offended when someone has an opinion other than their own! It's not like we are criticizing them for liking something, we just don't like it! And it's not like you ever said "Stephanie Myer is a huge whore of an author who has no brains at all and should probably just die for polluting the world with sparky vampires". You are just explaining how the book is not properly written and your own feelings about that and her characters. But even if you did say that, it's not as though you said it to Myer's face which would be a bit rude. It's on your own YouTube channel that people have actually been harassing you to make videos about and, like you said, it's your own freedom of speech and if this guy doesn't like what you have to say, he doesn't have to watch it. This is something I never understood about the internet. You don't HAVE to read something. You don't HAVE to watch someone's video yet everyone gets these comments "Ughh, I just wasted 2 minutes of my life" Wow, a whole two minutes. I'm sorry this video took away from your time curing cancer or whatever was so much more important that you needed to take a YouTube break so discover this video but you didn't have to watch it!
    Anyway, I think you were very smart in your rebuttals and I feel bad that this guy has no brain at all, but I guess that's why he only has friends who spell cool with a K.
    Keep being awesome Alex. We love your music and any video you make. We didn't start watching just because you started reading twilight (even though it's hilarious). Cheers, Christine.
  • isabel.B
    This made my day, I laughed out loud frequently, particularly at "let me summarise u". I saw some other people in the comments saying that it's spelled "apologise" in england so maybe it's the same deal. The idiocy of some people never ceases to amaze me... and entertain me. *shrug*

    I'd also like to point out that my friend and I counted and Meyer used the word "chagrin" so often that it lost all literary significance. I think it was something like 26 times, but i cant be certain.

    Can't wait for the EP that i've pre-ordered (how long will it take to ship to California?) or TWIM!

    DFTBA, although that's probably impossible for you as it seems like it's programmed into your genetic code :]
  • k_e_l_l_i
    Clearly, he just doesn't have as many people that love him as you do.
    :D *yay for tomorrow*
  • I think a visual narrative of this story would make quite an entertaining video.
  • It's happening. :D
  • Katie :D
    I like the Twilight books but that didn'd stop me loving your videos about them. Everything you say about them is true and absolutely hilarious!!!! Also love all of your other videos and watch them regularly. Clearly this guy is a first class knob with no sense of humour or friends!!! It makes me laugh that he has such a small brain that there are only three words he can think of to insult you with, what a prick!
    Ly
    xxx
  • What do you think, same guy different account? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6t7Y-OyLkw
  • Haha Emily where did you find that?! I bet this guy does read twilight naked and films it if he loves it as much as he appears to. Haha. Wow.
  • Tessa (Meekakitty) tweeted that link saying "Can you believe this boy is famous in Australia?" I couldn't help but make the connection ;)
  • Taara
    Well, that was highly amusing. More or less akin to the conversations I have with Twihards when I say anything at all against the series.

    However, I should point out that, while it's hilarious to read these conversations, you should probably not post their usernames. This isn't just to keep your fans from heckling them; some of these users are enjoying channel views that they don't deserve because your supporters head directly to their channel to flame them.

    And honestly, the best thing to do is not feed the trolls and ignore the comments. People who make inflammatory comments are generally looking for their opinion to be acknowledged.

    Best of luck on the release tomorrow, and I hope it's a great success! I love your music, and hope you continue to write music for many years to come.
  • Amy x
    Hah!!! thats very funny, he's calling you the twat, when hes being a twat by sending you abusive messages, what does that make him? a hypocrite! Also, he really needs to get a dictionary ,a) to learn what hypocrite means and b) to learn some new vocabulary other than, evil, vindictive and talentless. Also, how does HE have the right to be judging her book, even if he is judging it as amazing, he hasn't written a book, therefor he can't express his opinions on it! Goodness me :) NEW EP aaaah so much excitement .... :) <3 p.s - Don't question your musical talent, clearly all of us reading your blog love your music, because you're very talented Alex <333 x
  • gemlovesalexday
    OMAD! (oh my Alex Day!) that has to be the funniest thing i've ever read! i laughed so much, i had to take a wee break! and it was a mighty long wee! aha! dont know why i shared that! never mind.
    This vampire guy is clearly just jealous. Both, of you for your success, and of the characters in twilight seeing as most of them are vampires, and his user name is (something)theVAMPIRE PRINCE. what an absolute tool. you dont have to be qualified to have an oppinion. and as for the humble pie part, can you even eat a real life humble pie? douche bag. and why would he tell you to go die? if you went and died, he would have no one to have stupid debates with about their "vindictive, evil, twat-like" personalities. and therefor nothing better to do with his time. i think you should send him a message saying that he doesnt have to right to judge your videos because he has made no videos about twilight and how shit it actually is. lol. ahh, a summary of this guy "a vindictive shallow individual with no moral compass" Twat. xx
  • Oopspleaseenteranametocomment
    Aw, I wanted to see how he'd (attempt to) return from your coup de grace as well. Oh well. The twat.
  • Mia
    Failboat. Just... utter fail.

    It's these Twihards who can't get enough of her crap writing and flame anyone who doesn't say only good, four letter words about the book that are what really get me. Especially when they go after someone intelligent and just start beating the crap out of their logic and polite (or fairly polite) responses. Honestly, they have no flipping life except this? Really... I've lost all faith in pretty much everyone who likes Twilight. Being one of three or so thirteen year old girls who doesn't like the series, it's quite annnoying.

    And this really is making me mad! You don't need that moron's hatemail. Stupid, stupid Twihard. Learn some freaking grammar and spelling and come back when you can string together a coherent response. And next time if you're going to curse, do away with the flipping asterisk and say the word. It's not making you seem like any less of a little piece of scum.

    /end rant

    Ahem. Anyway, in conclusion, your responses ftw, and Twihards fail so hard it's painful.

    You and your music are the best, man, and I AM looking forward to more.
  • Kirsten
    Alex, you win.

    It makes me wonder whether or not the user has listened to your music. Because at least you're reading the book before you're judging it.

    I totally agree with everything everyone else has said, so I'm not going to repeat any of it that I read...

    Twihards need lives. (However, admittedly, I don't have one either, so I really can't be one to talk.) If all they're gonna do is watch videos just to send hatemail about it, they really shouldn't exist. Go read your Twilight Saga, stupid.

    I dunno why they get so offended by this stuff. I saw your 'Harry Potter is Gay' video, and thought it was hilarious, and I'm a die-hard Harry Potter Freak. Maybe, since they know the whole thing sucks, they need to protect it the best they can, which, is not very well. I've come to the conclusion that Twilight kills braincells.

    I read the whole Saga, and I agree with everything you're saying in the videos. It's just not good.

    I honestly wanted to scream at the user the whole time.

    So yeah. Screw the Haters. Keep making your videos, because I think I've reached the point that I'm living off of them.
  • goldengirl268
    LOL! This blog entry made my day =)
  • Mary
    I was going to make a smart comment about how he spelled apologize wrong.
    Then I realized you were both british.
  • gemlovesalexday
    is it spelled differently elsewhere? x
  • It's with an 's' here. Apologise :)
  • Amy
    So what he is saying is that what we do in english lit is wrong, because none of us have degrees? I can't say I enjoy taking books apart, I prefer just to read them, but the way you have done Twilight is halarious. I'm also not a fan of Meyer's, I find the books very pretentious. The way you handled him was amazing, I would have just gotten angry and started eating the computer. Can't wait for the next Twilight video =]
  • Alice
    oh alex, i actually can't stop laughing! sounds like he's the cunt. what a nob, must have no life. and just for the record, i love all your videos, music and all, not just the twilight ones! x
  • justmargaret
    Don't get me wrong, Alex. This is great, and I agree with you completely. You're definitely in the right here. However, I was a little insulted when you chose to demonstrate this guy's lack of credibility and general laughability by pointing out that he only has one subscriber. Having one subscriber doesn't indicate anything, least of all someone's intelligence, which I think was sort of maybe the implication. Maybe. But I might be wrong. Either way, excited to see the next Twilight video and good luck with the EP!
  • Oh, I know, I completely didn't mean it like that; I just thought said subscriber's username was funny xD
  • Lewis
    I miss these types of long entries from you Alex xD
  • alyson13
    Man this post made my day, it was hilarious.

    I found myself getting really frustrated at this guy for you, so I can only imagine the way you felt. I don't know if I would have handled it as well as you did, so go you.
  • Stacey
    Wowzers. Someone must have WAY too much spare time on their hands. I love the fact that they have gone through and watched all the videos in order to say how much they hate them. Do they write lengthy letters to other people who don't like twilight I wonder. Twilights a hot topic for a lot of comedy websites, as long as something is popular, there will be people taking the mick out of it. You should remind him that all publicity is good publicity and that goes for Stephanie Meyer as well. I mean, you've bought the book fair and square and now you are telling your followers about it. You make me look at Twilight in a whole different way. It's a rather funny book when you think about it.
    Anyways, loving the videos. Don't quit :D
  • 'No-one knows me except for Twilight – what?! What about my mum? She didn’t just return from seeing New Moon, walk into the house and say “OH FUCK I HAVE A SON!" '
    XD This made me laugh so much.
    That guy is seriously a twat, ignore him, I think the thousands of people who love you out weigh the few idiots like him who don't.

    <3
  • partyweetow
    That was very entertaining!

    Some people, you just can't make them see reason. They think they're right, no matter how many times and ways you prove them wrong. It's very frustrating. You did a good job of staying calm, though, so kudos on that. :D
  • Rebecca
    That guy is obviously a complete and utter twat. He won't let you have your opinion on a book because you're not qualified enough, yet he freely states his opinion about your music. I wonder how many album's he's written?
    He clearly needs to learn the meaning of the word 'hypocrite'.
    Urgh! *frustration*
    <3
  • Katya
    Hahaha, that is hilarious. What a pathetic person. He clearly doesn't know anything about you anyway. I've met you at a few gatherings and you seem like the loveliest person ever :) & OMG tomorrow :D exciting. Will we be able to buy it at the Upload Tour?

    ps. I just typed my name as 'Name'. Clever.
  • Jen
    I really enjoy reading arguments where one persons clearly far more intelligent and sane than the other. thanks for the entertainment nerimon..
  • Moriah
    The guy's a fucker with no life. I can personally say I admire your patience and that I couldn't have been half as nice to the guy as you've been. I admire your strength xD

    And, by the way? I loved your videos way before Twilight. And, as a Twilight fan, I find your review videos to be honest and funny. You're a talented, opinionated guy. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
  • I love how much trouble he clearly went to to comment on all of your videos and then comment again on other comments! Someone's got too much time...
  • Issy
    So are they trying to say that Twilight the book or Twilight the series sold more than 40 million copies? If they're talking about the book, it's only sold 17 million; if they mean the series, it's sold more than 85 million. If you actually have the numbers on your side, you might as well use them properly...
    I'm also loving the fact that, while for most of the numbered message, they used 'you', for the summary, they felt the need to revert to 'u'. Just in case, after all that time reading Twilight, you've forgotten the rules of normal English.
  • bradausrotas
    DON'T FEED THE TROLL, ALEX.
  • TheLunarFire
    That's the worst bit about the internet. You may have hundreds of readers who love you, but then there will always be the occasional few who watch your stuff just to tell you how much they hate it. I won't say I get them all the time with my writing, but I've had a few flames. It's never happened to me, but the worst is when they come from a group of flamers that all decide to "critique" a story together. That's when it gets cruel. The best thing to do is answer once and then discontinue the conversation completely. People like that are very stubborn and usually not worth arguing with. As you've learned, they hardly ever listen.

    Note: I do find it funny that he got so worked up over Twilight, though. I've never seen that before. Usually it's people debating the other side.
  • Ah, YouTube comments - you will never find a more wretched hive of ignorance and hypocrisy.
  • My favorite part is how he is critiquing your videos and does not make videos of his own. What a hypocrite!
    Oh, the *irony*!
    :D
  • Oh wow. He really doesn't know what he's talking about, does he? I think the reason as to why I find it so funny is that he completely ignores your replies and says the same thing over and over.
    Just because you haven't written a novel doesn't mean you can't have an opinion on other novels. In fact, I find it impossible to NOT have an opinion after you've read a book. Books effect people in different ways.

    Also, I pre-ordered 117% Complete yesterday, and I am EXCITED. I can't wait for it to arrive in the post. :)
  • I get messages like that all the time. Its best not to reply, as it lets them know it effected you if you do.
  • I don't think it effected him, he just thought it was entertaining, like when he wrote to the spam e-mailer offering him millions of dollars and Alex said they they could just transfer it into his Pay Pal with no need for a lawyer. Haha priceless.
  • Hahahahaha, wonderful! I can't believe this happened, and that it dragged on so long. Sounds like a fun, yet frustrating debate. And his use of hypocrisy? really? And the "two-faced hypocrite" is rather redundant. Is their such thing as a one-faced hypocrite you think? Obviously he does not know the definition of a hypocrite and he can not critique Twilight and say it is great writing because HE is not qualified in the English language! haha.

    P.S. Alex, I love you (in the most non-creepy, never even met you stalker kind of way). While I admit your Twilight videos were some of the first ones I saw, I was introduced to you through my friend who was buy your cd off of iTunes with me. =D Keep up the good work in all your forms of entertainment! I don't care who you're "slagging" in your videos. (Wait, is that even a word? I got this as a definition:
    "1. stony waste matter separated from metals during the smelting or refining of ore.
    • similar material produced by a volcano; scoria.
    2. Brit., informal derogatory a promiscuous woman"

    Huh? I guess it just turned into a slang word that I was not aware of or something.)
  • AnAbundanceOfKathryn
    I love this but you should have told him that he can't judge you unless he's got lots of popular youtube videos and a few albums. I think he's the hypocrite here.
  • mkay reading troll comments/messages.... sad. Letting them bother you... sadder. Writing about it to put it in perspective... saddest. Ignoring it all? prissselessss.
  • It didn't bother me - I just shared it in an attempt to entertain, as the Twilight videos themselves do :) Also HI KEVIN :D
  • Mozza
    aha what an idiot. He says you can not critique something you don't know? tell him to be the face of Youtube get 1000 of subscribers and then he can tell you what not to do. I mean if we play it on his rules then he can't say shit about your channel until he has a successful one of his own.

    your amazing mate don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
  • Faye
    He must enjoy the attention, Alex. I'm glad you blocked him in the end. What a nob.
    Also, I love the fact that he called you 'talentless' when he seems to be the person with one subscriber, who clearly can't spell either.
    I seen a few of his comments when you pointed out the message from 'SexyWhiteKorean', I just thought he was a hater who wasn't going to say anything through DIRECT MESSAGE to you because he's too scared, but it seems like I was wrong. Either way, he's making a fool of himself - not you.
  • oh, i almost died laughing! what is wrong with people?! goodness, why do you even bother with them?
    i've said it before, i'll say it again, everyone i know loves your Twilight critique.
  • mmm122
    Brilliant. You're a genius, Alex.
  • I can't believe I read all of that xD
    But yeah, people like that just make me laugh =/

    Can't wait for the EP though! :D I haven't bought the actual CD yet as much as I want to, because I'm a bit confused about the payment thing... Do you have to be a paypal member or can you just put your details in? haha Probably not the place to be asking xD But I will be buying it on iTunes asap ^_^v
  • spoongirl
    you can just put your details in, you dont have to have an account :)
  • jeremybrettfan
    I almost LOLed my pants there, that was hi-frakking-larious. :D Though I was very late to the Alex Day party, I felt the need to add to the arguement against "No one knows you except for Twilight.": I came upon your vlogs when I saw you doing a mini play with the John Greene bobblehead. I thought it was a bobblehead of Gil Grissom because I am a bit of a numpty, but no. Anyway, that video then led me onto Chameleon Circuit, and this was before the Twilight videos even started. So, thanks. Really looking forward to enjoying your album in a world where I don't have to have written one to be allowed to have an opinion on it! Xx.
  • Jen
    this was quite entertaining to read. It's like they say.. you can't win an argument against an idiot! They just won't understand your higher logic.. I have this problem all the time in arguing with people in my school - they just are so stubborn and refuse to listen to my side. You could, theoretically, bring yourself down to their level, but then what is it, but two apes screaming their heads off? It amounts to nothing.
  • Wow.

    I have to say that you were very patient with this guy.

    The rest is already said by the other commenters :)
  • Emily
    This was so funny to read. I had an online debate with someone recently (they can be fun, can't they?) but ours was about her OWN poor use of language rather than an authors. I agree that language should only be passed down to those who are worthy.

    I can't wait for the EP! Less than eleven hours to go until March 1st!
    x
  • I hate pointless arguments. This kid could barely come up with something to counteract what you were saying. He's going to call the publishers? OH NO. I'm sure there's countless numbers of people that are against Twilight therefor they either blog or vlog about how they dislike it. You already know this though, ha.
  • LaurenCB
    Ha, I just laughed so hard about that.
    What an idiot, I almost feel like starting an argument with him but I'm not gonna waste my time.

    His arguments weren't very constructive, calling your music shit - ooooh scary. Of course there are gonna be people that don't like your music, you can't please everyone.
    And saying you don't have the right to judge her books? WTF. Everyone has the right! A 1 YEAR OLD has the right to judge her books!
    Wow I've never been in a film before, so can I not judge this film? :/

    Alex I have to hand it to you, you're good when it comes to debating.
    I'm sure you already do, but ignore the haters. They're spiteful idiots, with nothing better to do with their time.
    Your music is great, and so are you. :)
    x
  • jackreyes
    He is pretty ridiculous by the seems of it, like some people are. He also forgets that in order to get an qualifications in English, as low as a GCSE, that you need to do some technical analysis of literature. If everybody gave up there thinking that they shouldn't be allowed to give their opinions because they don't have a PhD in English, or have ever written a book, then nobody would ever go on to get a PhD. It seems like he is bitter that you haven't written any books because he wanted to ridicule anything you may have written. Anyway, he probably wasn't worth your time, I doubt he learnt anything from the whole experience.

    Also, I was wondering why you decided to bring your EP out on a Monday. Seems like a strange day to bring it out to me. Obviously it is March 1st (and St. David's Day) and it is a nicer seeming date than the 27th and 28th of February, but still... Anyway, hope it sells really well for you.
  • Wolfiex
    i lolled so much at this it hurts.
    i totally agree with spoongirl, lack of vocab and everything else.
    also, he is the talentless twat, accusing you of jealousy!? how could you be jealous of something you hate! also, i think you are doing better than meyer, as she had a film to promote her book, and then she sold more of them, where as you only have your videos (still big) and people are buying them BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE MUSIC.people only buy twilight because they have seen the film, so they pick up the book, then realise, 'oh shit, this is absolute crap. im going back to the film and jacob mccullens 6 pack.' (bdw, deliberate errors)

    that vampire dude is such a cunt.

    DONT LISTEN TO THE HATERS ALEX! (not that you would anyways :] )
  • spoongirl
    I laughed so hard at this.

    If he's saying that you haven't got a right to say anything about it because you havent got a PhD in English, then he hasn't got the right to say anything either. People with PhD's in English wouldn't use 'u' and all that rubbish when they're talking and that FAIL of speech couldn't come up with a book.

    And he clearly has a lack of vocabulary :P

    On another note, WOAH tommorow? Time flies, especially when you forgot that February has the dodgy number of days :/

    By the way, when you're on tour, will we able to buy CD's at the gigs? So I know wether or not to throw Parrot Stories and Chameleon Circuit in there whilst I'm buying the 117% complete bundle (that small tshirt is huuuuggggge o.O)
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